Why does psychosis feel so real?

When I’m in psychosis it feels so real. Everything feels connected. When it passes I can see it wasn’t real. Why does psychosis make us think this way? I know it’s a neurotransmitter problem but it doesn’t seem to totally describe why it makes us feel this way. Does anyone know or does science not know yet?

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I think schizo is still a mystery.

No one knows for sure.

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Chemicals in the brain. It’s nothing mystical or magical. It just is…

It’s complex because the brain is incredibly complex but it’s nothing other than chemistry at a basic level…just a thought.

I know that, I’m just wondering how that translates to delusions. I don’t think anyone knows yet.

What gets me is that those delusions can be so similar…like the Jesus thing or that uber special thing…It smacks a similar thing to what is going on..Yes.we don’t know the framework of whats happening but we can say your delusional…There’s markers there and it’s biochemical and genetics. It’s not that interesting to me because it’s what it is…What are you looking for?

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How electrochemical impulses in the brain creates our reality I guess.

That is just normal thinking. Abnormal or such is sz and all else like adhd and stuff like that.

It’s not mystical or magical it’s just dumb genetics and drawing shite in the developmentant biology…You want to know how thought is and thus is philosophy and there’s plenty of stuff out there for that. Seriously.

I’m looking for a scientific explanation than a philosophical one.

I know neurotransmitter problems create schizophrenia but I don’t know how electrochemical impulses create consciousness and stuff like that.

“Why does psychosis feel so real?”

The quick and slightly smart alec answer is that if it didn’t feel/seem real, it wouldnt be believable and you woundn’t be in psychosis :stuck_out_tongue: .

I think you are asking an impossible question here. Does anybody know how consciousness is created really? I dont think so. And even if someone does, Its unlikely you are going to find them here amongst us here on this forum. To my knowledge its all pretty much still theories at best.

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I know consciousness isn’t understandable at this point, Inwas just using it as an example. I just wish I could know how neurotransmitter problems create psychosis.

They used to say it was high levels of dopamine but I think it has more recently been changed to higher dopamine activity in certain parts of the brain. Dopamine has an effect on a lot of things, concentration, movement , enjoyment and on and on. How exactly they create psychosis, I think would be better understood if we really did understand consciousness.

If we really knew enough to answer that, AP’s would probably be better and would be able to better target the right areas of the brain properly, instead of the sledgehammer of ap’s blocking off enjoyment in some, creating movement disorders in others, etc. If we understood it that well we would be able to tailor aps to a person and increase activity where needed and decrease others.

This is why I am partial to partial dopamine agonists. They have the potential to open where it needs more and open less when need less.

Of course they are not perfect enough to address all issues. I still dont find as much enjoyment in many things that I used to. Maybe someday we will be able to target the areas more precisely.

I dont think we can really answer your question here. I know im not qualifed and I doubt anyone else here is either.

But that is my best shot at explaining what I can.

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This is a good answer. You seem to know a lot about this

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Thanks. I’ve been looking at it for a long time. Not that long after I joined the old forum I started. I still sometimes wonder if I have it all right though. Its a very abstract topic.

I know some neuroscience, mainly the different parts of the brain (mainly the cortex) and the anatomy of nerve cells. I need to learn more about neurotransmitters. I know some like dopamine, serotonin, epinephrine and others, but not all.

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Also, I havent looked at it much for awhile and you tend to get rusty on complex topics like this.

Well, the internet is out there. It holds a lot of answers if you look at legit articles and whatnot and make sure you arent led astray by all the garbage supposed “knowledge”.

Lot of pseudoscience and misinformation. I think the key is to check multiple sources for verification if you think you have a grasp on something to make sure its legit.

And of course, on this complicated of a topic, even the legit theories may be wrong.

I was always more of a physics guy, mainly relative physics, quantum mechanics, string theory, thermodynamics, newtons laws, etc. I have a library full of physics books.

a great neuroscience book I recommend is “Principles of Neural Science.” It’s very long (haven’t read the whole thing, just select topics) but it blew my mind. I was just reading about neural migration the other day. That was certainly fascinating.

but I’m not a professional on these topics. Just a layman.

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Yeah, I did electrical work and security work most recently before my Amazon stint, so I have no formal training in this stuff either. Just stuff I’ve picked up over the years while I was looking for answers.

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Knowledge is certainly power though, whether or not you’re a layman!

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I think the reason everything seems connected is literally due to a synaptic problem about the way your brain makes connections. I don’t really read too deeply into the neurochemistry of sz, just because having advanced knowledge of that really wouldn’t be much different from having a psychotic delusion for me: I wouldn’t be able to tell the facts of it from fiction.

I think its a call from above to make yourself healer.

But you must take your antipsychotics otherwise you cant be healer