Sleep cycles with no daytime naps

Hey everyone, does anyone here manage to regulate their sleeping hours to stay within sensible nightly hours and then wakeful through out the daylight and evening hours. or am I going to have to blame my genetics disposition on this factor of life?

If I continue down the student and then research route. It won’t matter to me. But if I ever want normal life, it will matter. As far as I can tell, I don’t think there is a fix for this. Not even a long winded complex fix which means I’ll have to view recovery as being a mathematical researcher - someone who works on contracts instead of a secured permanent tenureship.

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I suspect most people here, including myself are like that. However, I get about 10 hours sleep :zzz: a night , probably thanks to Abilify.

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As in you are able to sleep within night hours and stay awake during the day?

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Yes, but when I was off meds, my sleep was all over the place and random.

I take trazodone. When I take it I sleep all night then stay awake all day.

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That’s interesting, my sleep is erratic with and without meds. I force myself to sleep sometimes but what ends up happening is i’m awake for hours having “rested” instead of slept

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You could try some L-theanine at bedtime. It has research behind it saying that it improves sleep quality for schizophrenics.

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I used to be on Trazodone, but it made me violent. I’ve been given something else now which is a sleep specific medicine (forget the name - daro something)

I know doctors who took Ambien for sleep

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Google says it relaxes you without make you tired, found in green tea too. This is worth a shot. Thank you for the suggestion @everhopeful

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Quviviq/Daridorexant (pretty new to the UK apparently, will be a short term solution even thought it’s meant to be long term)

Conclusions: Our results suggest that L-theanine is effective in ameliorating positive symptoms and sleep quality in schizophrenia. The MRS findings suggest that L-theanine stabilises the glutamatergic concentration in the brain, which is a possible mechanism underlying the therapeutic effect.

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If you are not prepared to give up caffeine completely and what with the meds also messing with ciracadian rythms then sleep is haphazard.

There is a sleep hygeine method that you can google or copilot and that is scientifically proven to help manage sleep.

But if you can’t give up first and foremost coffee, tea or soda with caffeine then nothing is going to work really.

You won’t get a lot of quantity in green tea. I’d get an L-theanine supplement.

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If you don’t mind my asking, are you saying this from experience of no caffeine in your diet?

Cos I know I can’t stop caffeine, in no way can I come off caffeine unless I use a stimulant which I won’t do

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I have caffeine free tea, decaffeinated coffee and still my sleep is haphazard, but it would be worse with it. Even those options of decaf still have some caffeine in them.

Like I said , if you can’t give up a drug that causes sleeplessness that figher jet pilots use to keep them awake then you will have to put up with it unfortunately.

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Available in gummy form. That’s a good thing for me, I have a sweet tooth and hate pills

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i thiink its possible to get a hold of it just by establishing a good schedule as a habit. i also heard recently that some people have like night-watch genes or something. like basically if all humans slept at the same time we’d be cooked so its actually advantageous for humans to have certain watchmen genes in some people so some people can protect the tribe at night

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I feel upset but also grateful in a really bittersweet way. Upset bc I want to be able to go to work and come home and sleep like a normie. I don’t know why I want to live on the same timeframes as others but it just appeals for socialising.

Grateful bittersweetly though. How many countries can afford to fund mathematical researchers on termly basis on handsome salaries for when their contracts are in progression - opportunities you should really appreciate rather than scoff at. It provides an enjoyment so many are denied (assuming I ever even manage to get into such a position)

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This a good post, because it points to being aware of how genetic predispositions usually stem from a reason evolutionary speaking. I strongly believe that sleep patterns that recycle between stable and unstable are creativity inducers in people; thank you

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